Why We Don't and Won't Ever Carry Richard Rohr

Why We Don't and Won't Ever Carry Richard Rohr

At Aquinas and More we have always had a policy that we will only carry product that is true to Catholic teaching. Why carry product that undermines the Church unless you want to destroy your own business? Could you imagine Coke or Pepsi selling literature or sending out spokesmen that praise the competition as being just as good as their product or mislead people about what their product is? For some reason there are wildly popular authors who do just that within the Catholic Church.
One such author is Richard Rohr. He is a staple for St. Anthony Messenger Press and gives retreats across the country. I’ll be blunt. Fr. Rohr’s ideas about salvation are heretical. He just published a new book, Why Be Catholic, which I spent some time looking through. I may have missed it, but amid all of the talk about the need for community and the Church’s position on social justice I couldn’t find anything about Truth or salvation. It seems to me that any discussion of “Why be Catholic”? needs to start and end with salvation and Truth. Otherwise, the Church is just a social club like the Elks.
Here are some links explaining Father Rohr’s “theology”. Richard Rohr is a new-age heretic who wraps his heresy in biblical quotes. Here are some samples:

 

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  • Leon Keller Reply

    Please let me know when the The Parish Book of Chant is available. Thank you.

    April 3, 2008 at 12:41 pm
  • Augustin56 Reply

    @Becky Sometimes the truth does put one off.  Usually, it’s when the one being put off is on the wrong side of truth.

    May 20, 2015 at 11:18 am
  • Augustin56 Reply

    @Becky Sometimes the truth does put one off.  Usually, it’s when the one being put off is on the wrong side of truth.

    May 20, 2015 at 11:18 am
  • Augustin56 Reply

    @AwesomeSauce Open minded doesn’t mean one leaves one’s well-formed conscience out of the loop.  We must be cautious these days, because there are wolves in sheeps clothing, going around teaching heresy.

    May 20, 2015 at 11:20 am
  • Augustin56 Reply

    @AwesomeSauce Open minded doesn’t mean one leaves one’s well-formed conscience out of the loop.  We must be cautious these days, because there are wolves in sheeps clothing, going around teaching heresy.

    May 20, 2015 at 11:20 am
  • Augustin56 Reply

    If someone offered you a glass of the very finest wine in the world, and put a teaspoon of sewerage in it, would you drink it?   No?  Why not?  Because it could harm you, right?!  Of course.
    Likewise, unless we have those teaching us the faith who are 100% faithful to the Church’s teaching, then we should likewise not indulge ourselves.  Richard Rohr has more than a teaspoon of sewerage in his beliefs.  Like Martin Luther, he thinks he knows better than the Church what Christ taught.  Don’t walk, RUN to the nearest exit with respect to this guy!  There are a lot of good, faithful teachers of the faith that we can rely on.  Fr. Robert Barron is one. 
    Word of advice:  Anytime you hear anyone say they have a “new revelation” with regard to the teachings of Christ, RUN.  There are no new public revelations.  Divine revelation ceased with the death of the last Apostle.  Since that time, we’ve seen lots of heresies pop up.  I don’t know that there are any new heresies at this point, either.  Just old heresies under new names.
    Just to be clear, what is a heresy?  The obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same.  All it takes is one denial, or obstinate doubt, folks.
    And what is the penalty for heretics in the Church?  According to the Code of Canon Law, a heretic is automatically excommunicated, latae sententiae.  
    c1364 
    1. With due regard for can. 194, part 1, n. 2, an apostate from the faith, a heretic or a schismatic incurs automatic (latae sententiae) excommunication and if a cleric, he can also be punished by the penalties mentioned in can. 1336, part 1, nn. 1, 2, and 3.
    So, be careful who you follow and give kudos to.  We can be guilty of sin by cooperating in the sin of another.  There are nine ways in which we can sin by participating in the sin of another. 
    1. By counsel (to give advice, one’s opinion or instructions.)
    2. By command (to demand, to order, such as in the military.)
    3. By consent (to give permission, to approve, to agree to.)
    4. By provocation (to dare.)
    5. By PRAISE or FLATTERY (to cheer, to applaud, to commend.)
    6. By concealment (to hide the action, to cover-up.)
    7. By partaking (to take part, to participate.)
    8. By SILENCE (by playing dumb, by remaining quiet.)
    9. By DEFENSE of the ill done (to justify, to argue in favor.)
    The best we can do is pray for Richard Rohr, that he come back into the fold.

    May 20, 2015 at 11:25 am
    • Bethany Fielding Reply

      I think the Church should focus on cleaning up its own act—like covering up centuries of child sexual abuse, graft, killing and burning people alive, and certainly not following the example of Jesus but rather the church’s own self serving political institutional laws, rather than focusing on someone who teaches like Jesus, that is, to love one another and serve one another. In fact, Rohr is a lot like Pope Francis, but you probably don’t approve of him either. Judge not lest you be judged.

      August 14, 2018 at 5:42 am
      • Ian Reply

        Centuries? Records show a problem that started in the 50’s and mostly ended in the early 2000’s. Yes, anyone involved needs to be removed from office and turned over to authorities if they can be prosecuted.
        That has nothing to do with approval of Fr. Rohr who has contributed to the rot that infects the Church now.

        August 19, 2018 at 8:14 pm
    • Robert Thompson Reply

      I agree with most of what you said except comparing Martin Luther to Richard Rohr. That was an insult to Martin Luther.

      October 10, 2018 at 10:44 pm
  • Augustin56 Reply

    If someone offered you a glass of the very finest wine in the world, and put a teaspoon of sewerage in it, would you drink it?   No?  Why not?  Because it could harm you, right?!  Of course.
    Likewise, unless we have those teaching us the faith who are 100% faithful to the Church’s teaching, then we should likewise not indulge ourselves.  Richard Rohr has more than a teaspoon of sewerage in his beliefs.  Like Martin Luther, he thinks he knows better than the Church what Christ taught.  Don’t walk, RUN to the nearest exit with respect to this guy!  There are a lot of good, faithful teachers of the faith that we can rely on.  Fr. Robert Barron is one. 
    Word of advice:  Anytime you hear anyone say they have a “new revelation” with regard to the teachings of Christ, RUN.  There are no new public revelations.  Divine revelation ceased with the death of the last Apostle.  Since that time, we’ve seen lots of heresies pop up.  I don’t know that there are any new heresies at this point, either.  Just old heresies under new names.
    Just to be clear, what is a heresy?  The obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same.  All it takes is one denial, or obstinate doubt, folks.
    And what is the penalty for heretics in the Church?  According to the Code of Canon Law, a heretic is automatically excommunicated, latae sententiae.  
    c1364 
    1. With due regard for can. 194, part 1, n. 2, an apostate from the faith, a heretic or a schismatic incurs automatic (latae sententiae) excommunication and if a cleric, he can also be punished by the penalties mentioned in can. 1336, part 1, nn. 1, 2, and 3.
    So, be careful who you follow and give kudos to.  We can be guilty of sin by cooperating in the sin of another.  There are nine ways in which we can sin by participating in the sin of another. 
    1. By counsel (to give advice, one’s opinion or instructions.)
    2. By command (to demand, to order, such as in the military.)
    3. By consent (to give permission, to approve, to agree to.)
    4. By provocation (to dare.)
    5. By PRAISE or FLATTERY (to cheer, to applaud, to commend.)
    6. By concealment (to hide the action, to cover-up.)
    7. By partaking (to take part, to participate.)
    8. By SILENCE (by playing dumb, by remaining quiet.)
    9. By DEFENSE of the ill done (to justify, to argue in favor.)
    The best we can do is pray for Richard Rohr, that he come back into the fold.

    May 20, 2015 at 11:25 am
  • Augustin56 Reply

    @work4justice He’s more like a “profit” than a prophet.  He’s just another Martin Luther trying to pass himself off as an authentic Catholic.  The Church has never taught doctrinal error, nor will it ever.  That’s not to say stray individuals can’t, though, in the name of the Church.  You should be cautious about to whom you listen!

    May 20, 2015 at 11:29 am
  • Augustin56 Reply

    @work4justice He’s more like a “profit” than a prophet.  He’s just another Martin Luther trying to pass himself off as an authentic Catholic.  The Church has never taught doctrinal error, nor will it ever.  That’s not to say stray individuals can’t, though, in the name of the Church.  You should be cautious about to whom you listen!

    May 20, 2015 at 11:29 am
  • mom4kids Reply

    Thank you!  I went to a Lenten discussion of Julian of Norwich only to find the priest was a huge fan of Rohr.  I was appalled at his complete disregard for what the Bible teaches and what Jesus Himself said about salvation.  This is the second priest I have encountered in which Jesus is missing from the discussion.  The emphasis on community/unity obliterates the reality of sin and salvation.  I call it the “rainbows and unicorns” version of salvation history.  I went home and opened my Bible, the CCC, and my Fundamentals of Christology book to see if I missed something over the past few decades in my studies.  Unfortunately, many good people thought this priest was a great speaker. Jesus, Mary, and Joseph pray for us!

    February 21, 2016 at 8:17 pm
  • Tyler Borden Reply

    I was raised Catholic and moved away from the church over time because of many prejudices that I saw in their teachings. I recently discovered Richard Rohr and he has sparked my renewed interest in the church.

    April 12, 2017 at 7:49 pm
    • Aquinas and More Reply

      Hopefully your interest will be renewed to the Truth of the Church and not Richard Rohr’s version of it.

      July 21, 2017 at 10:42 pm
  • kim Reply

    It is unfortunate that you can’t trust people to read and discern for themselves. Rohr and Rohlheiser are two of the people that manage to illuminate things in a such a way that keeps Jesus’ message of love and grace at the center. And remember, Jesus was considered a heretic in his day for doing the exact same thing…

    April 18, 2017 at 4:07 pm
    • Ian Reply

      How does our criticism affect people’s ability to discern? Isn’t it through criticism and thought that discernment happens?

      June 25, 2017 at 9:44 pm
    • Aquinas and More Reply

      You assume that we have some ability to prevent people from reading Richard Rohr by not carrying his books?

      July 21, 2017 at 10:42 pm
  • Michael Moylan Reply

    An open mind is a terrible thing to waste. People who are certain frighten me definitely.
    Your stance reminds me of the Crusades. What would you do to protect your opinions?

    June 25, 2017 at 8:01 pm
    • Ian Reply

      The Crusades were a defensive action coming after several hundred years of violent Muslim expansion.
      I am certain that what the Catholic Church teaches is true. If I wasn’t, I wouldn’t be Catholic.
      Father Rohr does not follow what the Church teaches so he is not following Christ.

      June 25, 2017 at 9:30 pm
    • Aquinas and More Reply

      The Crusades were a counter attack after centuries of retreat from Muslim armies.

      July 21, 2017 at 10:39 pm
  • Michael Lennon Reply

    Your first sentence give you away, “…we only carry product that is in tune to Catholic teaching.”. Is that really your job? Or is to promote provide provide product that promotes truth. Everyone (including you & me) has a “point of view.” But it is, after all, simply a “view from a point”. You might consider taking a look from others’ points of view. Even the namesake of your institution, Thomas Aquinas, embraced several ideas put forward by Aristotle—whom he called “the Philosopher”—and attempted to synthesize Aristotelian philosophy with the principles of Christianity. Why would he do that? Because God speaks his truth through whomever he wishes. Maybe you can re-think your positions some…if you are free to think critically and have an open (to God) mind.

    June 30, 2017 at 8:48 am
    • Aquinas and More Reply

      Yes, it actually is our job. We run a CATHOLIC store, not a spiritual store with a vaguely Catholic flavor.
      Aquinas used the parts of Aristotle that could be reconciled with the Truth of Catholicism. He didn’t take Aristotelian philosophy and declare that it was all true.

      July 22, 2017 at 5:45 pm
  • finally Reply

    You know who likes Rohr? Superficial thinkers. Those that operate by emotion only. They are hooked on his inchoate, and absurd, ideology. He will give you a few Christian sounding things, but when unpacked you get new age gobbledygook.

    July 13, 2017 at 7:54 am
    • kim Reply

      As a very (overly) analytical person, I’m going to say exactly the opposite is true. Taking the Bible as a literal truth is lazy and superficial. We all find teachers where we need them.

      July 22, 2017 at 2:23 pm
      • Aquinas and More Reply

        Straw man. No one suggested taking the Bible literally here.
        Yes, find teachers where you need them but make sure they are actually teaching you the Truth.

        July 22, 2017 at 2:48 pm
        • kim Reply

          Your type of condescension is really disheartening and one of the reasons so many people leave the Catholic church. Assuming that you know “the Truth” or who the “right” teachers are is pretty presumptive, perhaps along the lines of the Pharisees.

          July 22, 2017 at 3:06 pm
          • Aquinas and More

            No, I just presume that Jesus knew what He was saying when He entrusted the Catholic Church with the keys to Heaven.

            July 22, 2017 at 5:38 pm
          • kim

            I don’t believe that Jesus ever uttered the words “Catholic
            Church”, nor that he came to create some new “special group”. It makes us feel secure if we think we’re in that special group, but it’s exactly what we’re warned against. We obviously have to agree to disagree, so I wish you peace.

            July 22, 2017 at 10:41 pm
          • Aquinas and More

            Jesus actually did tell St. Peter that He would build His Church on St. Peter. He also said that the Truth He preached was for everyone. So no, He may not have said “Catholic Church” specifically but He did say that He was creating a Church and that the Church would protect the Truth.
            He also said that in later times there would come all kinds of false prophets preaching other gospels and not to listen to them.
            Again, you have used a straw man argument. No one is saying that we should feel secure because we’re Catholic. That’s a very Protestant belief.
            As Catholics we believe that while the Church holds the keys to the kingdom, it is up to us to live morally and die in a state of grace. St. Paul himself said that we should never stop striving for salvation because it isn’t guaranteed.

            July 23, 2017 at 6:49 am
          • Stephen “Steve” Sponsler

            Hm…Jesus entrusted the Catholic Church with the keys to heaven? no.

            October 12, 2017 at 7:03 pm
          • Aquinas and More

            Actually, yes. Remember when he told Peter that whatever he holds bound on earth will be bound in heaven and vice versa?

            October 12, 2017 at 7:48 pm
  • Ana Z Reply

    It seems your understanding of Richard Rohr is about as developed as your understanding of the Elks. Richard may have started out Catholic in the same way the Elks started out as a social club. In both cases, they evolved into something larger. The word Catholic means universal. Where is the harm in opening one’s heart toward loving acceptance? I’m puzzled why the church continues to shun and judge. It serves no one.

    July 21, 2017 at 6:01 pm
    • Aquinas and More Reply

      You misunderstand the meaning of universal in its application to the Church. The Truth of Christ is available for everyone. Truth, by its nature, does not encompass everything and Christ was very clear about accepting what is true.

      July 21, 2017 at 10:40 pm
  • Robert Schoneman Reply

    I used to purchase items from St. Anthony Messenger Press (which publishes Rohr’s writings). I stopped when I saw them selling a book/video entitled “The Body at Prayer” which mentioned chakras, mudras, etc. Excuse me, but what do those things have to do with authentic Catholic prayer?

    August 8, 2017 at 12:14 pm
  • Crux Fidelis Reply

    Dear Aquinas and More, I want to commend you for your integrity in only selling books that are in conformity with Church teaching. I can see from some of the comments on this post that this decision is not popular with everyone. However, Truth is not popular — it never has been. I am sure that, despite the naysayers commenting on your post, God will bless you and your Catholic business for your faithfulness to His Church and to the Magisterium. What you say about Richard Rohr is completely accurate, and no Catholic store or business should ever promote materials that contradict the Truths of our Faith. Bravo once again for your integrity! I will pray for the success of Aquinas and More. PS: Please don’t ever let the negative commenters here dissuade you from doing what is right.

    August 12, 2017 at 12:37 pm
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    March 23, 2018 at 1:40 pm
  • Chris Reply

    Please tell me where to find a concise description of the Truths of our Faith. This is not a sarcastic or combative request, but a sincere wish to understand. Thank you.

    April 15, 2018 at 5:49 pm
  • D. Whelan Reply

    Such vitriol and hateful messages here , from a believer in Jesus Christ who’s main message was to love your neighbour as yourself… sad you chose to hate and not love . Very glad not to live in America.

    June 5, 2018 at 6:51 am
    • Ian Reply

      Jesus called to repentance.
      There isn’t vitriol and hate here, only clear statements of what is true.

      June 8, 2018 at 10:33 am
  • Thomas Hakala Reply

    Jesus said the Spirit would come and She would teach us those things which the people were not ready for then. The Spirit is still alive and still giving us new understanding of ancient truths.
    You apparent hatred for a Catholic priest like Richard Rohr, is sad indeed and unworthy of a Christian. Fr. Rohr is still a priest in good standing in the Church and his Religious Order, which disproves the lie you tell about him being a heretic.
    People like you who think they have all the answers do much harm in the Church.
    Richard Rohr and his love of Christ exhibited in all his writings, has done more to bring the Gospel and the love of God to others than all your false judgments and hate speech could ever do.
    Your attack on a true prophet and servant of God is sad. Please open your heart to the love of God and drive out all the hatred you have for those who disagree with you.

    July 5, 2018 at 5:00 pm
    • Ian Reply

      Please quote where in the Bible Jesus says that “She” will come later to reveal extra-Biblical truths.
      I have no hatred for Fr. Rohr. Calling a spade a spade isn’t hatred, it’s love. If a pool of water is poisoned I’m going to tell people it’s poisoned so they don’t accidentally drink from it.

      July 6, 2018 at 1:30 pm
    • Robert Reply

      2 Timothy 4:3-4
      For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
      Just listening to Richard talk about Christians who’s ego’s keep them from seeing the truth. He is guilty of the same things he’s accusing them of. What does he know that makes him right and all of the biblical scholars from centuries ago up until now wrong? Some of them were and are compassionate caring Christians that have studied the bible and it’s history for years. Some even died for their faith.

      October 10, 2018 at 11:18 pm
  • antonio blas pino Reply

    THIS SO CALLED CATHOLIC PRIEST WAS A KEY SPEAKER AT THE RECENT ASSEMBLY OF THE ASSOCIATION OF CATHOLIC PRIESTS HERE IN ALBUQUERQUE…PROMOTED BY THE ARCHBISHOP OF SANTA FE…ARCHBISHOP WESTER…THIS GROUP IS DISDAINFUL OF CATHOLIC TRADITION…PROMOTES ITS OWN VERSION OF THE MAGISTERIUM…HOW SAD…FOR YEARS OUR LOCAL CHURCH LEADERS LOOKED THE OTHER WAY WHEN INNOCENT BODIES WERE BEING ABUSED…NOW, THEY, BY THEIR ACTIONS…SILENCE…ARE ABUSING SOULS! AND NO ONE SEEMS TO CARE…” ALL THAT IS NECESSARY FOR EVIL TO REIGN SUPREME IS FOR GOOD MEN TO REMAIN SILENT AND SAY NOTHING” SO TRUE EDMUND BURKE…GOD HELP US…WE ARE IMPLODING!

    July 20, 2018 at 9:35 pm
  • Lee Hamilton Reply

    I came looking for Rohr’s latest book, but will have to buy it elsewhere. I’m not interested in buying jewelry or apparel or other stuff sold here. Such trinkets won’t deepen my spirituality; they’ll merely give me a fleeting feeling that I’m somehow more faithful. Nor do I need to clog my bookcase with any more crusty, doctrinal books that freeze Christianity in time.

    July 26, 2018 at 3:37 pm
    • Ian Reply

      I’m sorry that you feel the need to denigrate religious devotions while at the same time dismissing the 4000 different titles we carry as “freezing Christianity”. You should try some books on the Theology of the Body or new evangelization or even what feminism means in the Church.

      July 31, 2018 at 12:34 pm
  • Edwin Kubena Reply

    I have read St. Anthony Messenger for some time. It is a Vat II modernist publication based on Political Correct fashions and fads. It is more a promotion of social justice, equality, diversity, inclusiveness, and ecumenism that promotes non catholic beliefs. Just read some of its liberal articles. Bottom line liberals will love this magazine it appeases the message of the world conservatives will clearly be disturbed by many of its pages.

    August 17, 2018 at 12:07 pm
  • David Bagnall Reply

    Hmm. Now I remember why Martin Luther was so furious with the Catholic Church. I always thought Christ commanded us to love one another; you seem to be peddling the message ‘I am right!’, beyond that of Christian love. As Oliver Cromwell said to Parliament ‘I beseech you in the bowels of Christ that that you may consider that you are mistaken’. What is our Christianity about? It is about Love. Not doctrine, Love. Your rejection of Fr. Rohr does not appear to be about Love.

    August 17, 2018 at 12:57 pm
    • Ian Reply

      Love is about Truth. Fr. Rohr sows confusion and distracts from the Truth, which is Christ.

      August 19, 2018 at 8:17 pm
    • Jim, OFS Reply

      What is Christianity about? Christianity is about following Christ and his commands. Following Christ does not mean only the commands we deem acceptable and/or convenient. Mr. Bagnell, Ask yourself this question: In today’s disordered world how would this statement by Jesus be received? ““Have you not read that from the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female’ and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?” Sadly I have a good idea how Fr. Rohr would respond.

      August 20, 2018 at 12:11 pm
  • AA Reply

    Salvation and Truth? From a church that has institutionalized pedophilia? Catholic Church, heal thyself…

    August 18, 2018 at 8:56 am
    • Ian Reply

      Yes, the Church needs to heal itself it needs to be clarified that most of what was being hidden, promoted or whatever was homosexual.
      Yes, there were pedophiles, but the vast majority were homosexual abuse of older male children and adults.
      Fr. Rohr is part of the problem. He supports homosexual marriage.

      August 19, 2018 at 8:12 pm
  • Diane Reply

    I was considering some of his books but was feeling uncomfortable so I came looking. Thank you for your input. I won’t go there now.

    September 4, 2018 at 8:26 pm
  • Dr. Aaron Milavec Reply

    Dear Ian,
    You say: Fr. Rohr is part of the problem. He supports homosexual marriage.
    When John the Apostle saw someone casting out demons in the name of Jesus, he tried to stop him “because he was not following us” (Mark 9:38). This is somewhat like your vain attempts to discredit the ministry of Rev. Richard Rohr. In this case, does not Jesus plainly say to you, “Do not stop him. . .” (9:39).
    I plead with you, therefore, to follow Jesus without hindering those who do not join your group of “True Catholics.”
    Fraternally, Aaron Milavec

    October 21, 2018 at 9:17 pm
    • Ian Reply

      You are missing a huge difference between St. John and Fr. Rohr. St. John wasn’t doing something condemned by the Church.

      October 27, 2018 at 5:22 pm
  • Karm Debattista Reply

    If you do not carry Fr Richard’s books, then it means that you wont carry other books that goes deeper than just plain catechism. Thank you for saving me the time not to look for anything in your bookshop.

    November 27, 2018 at 10:54 am
    • Ian Reply

      There is a difference between “deeper” and “heretical”. One we carry because we are Catholic, the other we don’t, also because we are Catholic.

      November 28, 2018 at 9:52 pm
      • Karm Debattista Reply

        funny… but what you call “heretical” (which is not) most theologians call “deep” and serious reflection and theology.

        November 29, 2018 at 12:36 am
        • Ian Reply

          Support of homosexual marriage? That’s traveling with the current of a dying culture and heretical, not deep.

          December 1, 2018 at 8:58 pm

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