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Behind the Counter #11 – Verbum Bible Software and the English Reformation

Today I spoke with Stephanie Mann, author of Supremacy and Survival about Catholic life during the English Reformation and Andrew Jones, product manager for Catholic products at Logos Bible software about Verbum, the new Catholic version of their famous software package.

Verbum Catholic Bible Study software from Logos Bible Software

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Today is November 3rd, feast of St. Martin de Porres. Juan Martin de Porres was born in the city of Lima, in the Viceroyalty of Peru, on December 9, 1579, the illegitimate son of a Spanish nobleman and a black former slave. He had a sister, Juana who was born three years later. His family lived in poverty and his mother sent him to school for a couple of years before he was sent to work for a surgeon / barber (if he cut your throat shaving you, he could sew you up after) to learn medicine.

When he was 15 he applied for entry to the Dominican Convent of the Rosary in Lima as a servant and eventually entered the Dominican order as a tertiary. His holiness and miracles convinced his superiors to drop racial limitations to entering the friars and he became a full Dominican.

When he was 34 he was assigned to work in the infirmary where he would spend the next 25 years caring for the sick and working many miraculous cures. During an epidemic, Martin brought so many sick to the convent for care that the superior forbade him from bringing any more victims for fear of spreading illness to all of the brothers. His sister offered her own house to help care for the overflow of patients.

During his life St. Martin founded a home for orphans and abandoned children as well as a hospital for animals. He dreamed of being a missionary his whole life but never left Lima. In spite of this, he seems to have had the gift of bilocation, being seen all over the world during his lifetime as far away as Africa and Japan.

He was friends with St. Rose of Lima and St. John de Massias and upon his death on November 3, 1939, was already considered a saint by those in Peru. He was beatified by Pope Gregory XVI in 1837 but wasn't canonized until 1962 by John XXIII.

You can typically recognize St. Martin de Porres in art because he wears a Dominican habit, holds a broom and is also surrounded by animals.

Other upcoming events and feasts include

  • Daylight savings ends (11/4)
  • Election Day (11/6)
  • Dedication of St. John Lateran (11/9)
  • St. Leo (11/10) OF
  • Veterans' Day (11/11) – St. Martin of Tours

I mention at the beginning of our show that we take a “no bull, just the Truth” approach at our store. This has been our unofficial slogan since we first opened for a couple of reasons. First, because we want our customers to actually trust that what they get at our store will help them learn the Catholic Faith. Secondly, St. Thomas Aquinas was a very large, quiet student in school and his peers referred to him as a “dumb ox”. One of his professors, St. Albert the Great, is famed for saying that “This dumb ox will one day make a bellow that will be heard around the world.”

The reason I mention this today is because of a book. For some reason, finding the documents of Vatican II in print is kind of like looking for orthodoxy in the pages of the National Catholic Register – fabled to exist, almost impossible to find.

The Daughters of St. Paul used to produce booklets with each of the documents and at one point had them all in one volume. All of those are out of print. There was also a collection edited by Austin Flannery that was the only game in town for many years but the collection was not the official translation of the texts.

Now, Image books has released a new book called Vatican II the Essential Texts. We were happy to see that someone was bringing out a collection in time for the Year of Faith and started selling it. Unfortunately, we found out today that the introduction was written by James Carroll, a dissident priest who left the priesthood to get married back in the 70's and has spent the last forty years criticizing anything orthodox about the Church. I don't know why Image Books, which is producing so many good titles these days, couldn't find a Faithful Catholic to write the preface. Anyway, the upshot is that we won't be carrying this collection and recommend that you go download the documents from the Vatican website for free.

In recent years we've seen an explosion of great resources for Catholic Bible study, from the group Great Adventure series with Jeff Cavins to the comprehensive Navarre Bible and the popular Ignatius Study Bible. The one thing that has been lacking is a software program that can put a huge amount of Bible study resources in one place in an easy to use format.

I have several customers who have told me about Logos bible software over the years and wished that there was a Catholic version of the product. About a year ago, Logos realized that there was a Catholic market and launched the Catholic version of the Logos software.

The software package is really incredible and far more than just a Bible study. I've asked Andrew Jones, Catholic Products Manager for Logos, to come on the show and talk about Logos and the brand new version of the Logos software for Catholics released this week called Verbum.

Typically, I'll interview authors about new books but I think that the current conflict between church and state over what the state can force the church to do is actually a very old conflict. In Supremacy and Survival, Stephanie Mann tells the story of how the Catholic Church dealt with the English Reformation and in spite decades of efforts to completely destroy the Catholic Church, the English Catholic Church not only survived but today has more adherents than the state church of England.

I'm also partial to the history of the Reformation because I chose St. Thomas More as one of the patrons for our store.


Supremacy and Survival


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